Kelly -- please take this private now to those who have replied. Thanks.
Judy.
on 4/26/11 8:30 AM, jess28@earthlink.net at jess28@earthlink.net wrote:
It is absurd in the extreme to be trapping rodents outside of a facility
that borders open space! Typical stupidity that causes animal suffering.
----- Original Message -----
From: "leann laurence" <leann.laurence@gmail.com>
To: "Judy Reed" <AnimalVoices@earthlink.net>
Cc: <animalrightsactionnetwork@googlegroups.com>;
<rocky-mountain-justice-for-animals@googlegroups.com>; "Jan Stern"
<RatAttackTeam@toast.net>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: RMJfA- Re: ARAN: east boulder rec center - killing rats (and
probably mice, birds, etc)
> OK- rats carry disease and will cause thousands of dollars in
> destruction of walls, wires, and food - all of which results in the
> use of more energy to replace. Even PETA recommends snap traps for
> rodents that are pests.
> No- you cannot use 'humane traps' and relocate because setting a (
> well-fed rec center) rat loose in an unknown environment will result
> in death due to lack of water and food.
> We've altered nature by building rec centers ( which you clearly enjoy
> and probably voted for) and taken away predators (Gasp! a coyote!) so
> it's time to woman-up and realize that while seeing that rat in a trap
> was upsetting, it's reality.
> There are many more rats ( believe me, they will be here long after we
> are gone) and many more topics to focus energy on.
>
>
>
> On 4/25/11, Judy Reed <AnimalVoices@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I am sending this to a rat expert I know for suggestions to use in a
>> letter.
>> The most important action to take is to prepare a letter that lots of us
>> can send to the management of the rec center. That will take a little
>> research to find out who is in charge, the name, address, fax, email,
>> etc.
>> Sounds like you have the start of a good letter Kellie. I'll let you
>> know
>> what my friend says, and perhaps we can incorporate it. If you start it,
>> I'll edit and prepare an alert, if you like.
>>
>> Judy.
>>
>>
>>
>> on 4/25/11 8:32 PM, wuzzle5@aol.com at wuzzle5@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> i was leaving the east boulder rec center this afternoon when i saw a
>> dead
>> rat attached to a mouse trap by the little flower garden in the center of
>> the driveway. i was definitely not happy so i picked the trap up,
>> brought
>> it into the rec center, up to the front desk, hung the dead rat in front
>> of
>> whoever was there, and asked who was trapping rats outside. they said
>> the
>> landscapers are trapping rats because they are chewing through the
>> irrigation tubes/lines. supposedly theyve "tried everything else," like
>> this was a last option. i doubt it.
>>
>> i think this is horrible and stupid for a number of reasons. not only
>> should these rats not be killed because they are living beings, but
>> killing
>> a few rats is not going to keep them from chewing irrigation lines. the
>> east boulder rec center is right across from open space. so you kill a
>> few
>> rats in some traps you buy at target. a billion other rats are just
>> going
>> to come over from open space to take their place.. it just seems
>> completely
>> nonsensicle to me that they would do this. the other thing is that when
>> you
>> put a mouse trap out like that, you are going to kill mice, rats, maim
>> birds, etc. it is irresponsible in so many ways. i dont think humane
>> traps
>> are the answer either since the same thing will happen. plus, if the
>> landscapers ever tried humane traps, i bet they wouldnt check them enough
>> and the rats or mice would die inside of them from exposure.
>>
>> i think the best course of action would be to find something to go around
>> the irrigation lines so the rats couldn't chew them or maybe east boulder
>> needs to realise that chewed irrigation lines is always going to be an
>> issue
>> and they just need to deal with it. does anyone have any landscaping
>> experience/ideas for dealing with animals chewing on irrigation lines?
>> im
>> sure this isnt the first time landscapers have had to deal with this. i
>> am
>> going to write to the east boulder rec center about the situation, but i
>> would like to do some brainstorming first. anyone who buys passes or a
>> membership to any of the boulder rec centers might want to write in, too.
>> it was really sad to see the little grey rat dead like that... :(
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> kellie
>>
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